What do you think Mark 5:1-20 is saying?

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Mark 5:1–20 (ESV)

1 They came to the other side of the sea, to the country of the Gerasenes. 2 And when Jesus had stepped out of the boat, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit. 3 He lived among the tombs. And no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain, 4 for he had often been bound with shackles and chains, but he wrenched the chains apart, and he broke the shackles in pieces. No one had the strength to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains he was always crying out and cutting himself with stones. 6 And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and fell down before him. 7 And crying out with a loud voice, he said, “What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me.” 8 For he was saying to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” 9 And Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” He replied, “My name is Legion, for we are many.” 10 And he begged him earnestly not to send them out of the country. 11 Now a great herd of pigs was feeding there on the hillside, 12 and they begged him, saying, “Send us to the pigs; let us enter them.” 13 So he gave them permission. And the unclean spirits came out and entered the pigs; and the herd, numbering about two thousand, rushed down the steep bank into the sea and drowned in the sea. 14 The herdsmen fled and told it in the city and in the country. And people came to see what it was that had happened. 15 And they came to Jesus and saw the demon-possessed man, the one who had had the legion, sitting there, clothed and in his right mind, and they were afraid. 16 And those who had seen it described to them what had happened to the demon-possessed man and to the pigs. 17 And they began to beg Jesus to depart from their region. 18 As he was getting into the boat, the man who had been possessed with demons begged him that he might be with him. 19 And he did not permit him but said to him, “Go home to your friends and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.” 20 And he went away and began to proclaim in the Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him, and everyone marveled.

  • In your opinion what was Mark saying THEN?

  • In your opinion what is Mark saying NOW?

  • —  What does this point mean for the non Christian?
  • —  What does it mean for us as citizens, as employees, and so forth?
  • —  What does it teach us about Christ?
  • —  What does it mean for us as individual Christians?
  • —  What does it mean for our church as a whole?

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  • In your opinion does this passage push back against any of these current ways of seeing, understanding and living in this world?

  • “I” am the center of the universe
  • —  I am what I own
  • —  My nation is God’s nation
  • —  We can’t know what is universally good
  • —  All that matters is matter (Verse 2)
  • —  We are gods
  • —  All that matters is what my small group thinks
  • —  I can come to my full human potential through inner exploration
  • —  The Gospel can be reduced to improvements in behavior
  • —  The extreme adherence to tradition, especially in cultural or religious practice for salvation. Example: Holding faith in ONLY a system where all knowledge is derived from an original divine revelation and is transmitted by tradition.
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Any (constructive) pertinent insights, questions, thoughts or opinions that you might have regarding Mark 4:35-41

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3 Translations of Mark 4:35–41:

>>>>>ESV | Mk 4:35 On that day, when evening had come, he said to them, “Let us go across to the other side.”  36 And leaving the crowd, they took him with them in the boat, just as he was. And other boats were with him.  37 And a great windstorm arose, and the waves were breaking into the boat, so that the boat was already filling.  38 But he was in the stern, asleep on the cushion. And they woke him and said to him, “Teacher, do you not care that we are perishing?”  39 And he awoke and rebuked the wind and said to the sea, “Peace! Be still!” And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.  40 He said to them, “Why are you so afraid? Have you still no faith?”  41 And they were filled with great fear and said to one another, “Who then is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?”

 

>>>>>NLT | Mk 4:35 As evening came, Jesus said to his disciples, “Let’s cross to the other side of the lake.”  36 So they took Jesus in the boat and started out, leaving the crowds behind (although other boats followed).  37 But soon a fierce storm came up. High waves were breaking into the boat, and it began to fill with water.  38 Jesus was sleeping at the back of the boat with his head on a cushion. The disciples woke him up, shouting, “Teacher, don’t you care that we’re going to drown?”  39 When Jesus woke up, he rebuked the wind and said to the waves, “Silence! Be still!” Suddenly the wind stopped, and there was a great calm.  40 Then he asked them, “Why are you afraid? Do you still have no faith?”  41 The disciples were absolutely terrified. “Who is this man?” they asked each other. “Even the wind and waves obey him!”

 

>>>>>The Message | Mk 4:35 Late that day he said to them, “Let’s go across to the other side.”  36 They took him in the boat as he was. Other boats came along.  37 A huge storm came up. Waves poured into the boat, threatening to sink it.  38 And Jesus was in the stern, head on a pillow, sleeping! They roused him, saying, “Teacher, is it nothing to you that we’re going down?”  39 Awake now, he told the wind to pipe down and said to the sea, “Quiet! Settle down!” The wind ran out of breath; the sea became smooth as glass.  40 Jesus reprimanded the disciples: “Why are you such cowards? Don’t you have any faith at all?”  41 They were in absolute awe, staggered. “Who is this, anyway?” they asked. “Wind and sea at his beck and call!”

Some Questions:

  1. What do you think Mark is saying in Mark 4:35–41 THEN:

  2. What do you think Mark is saying Mark 4:35–41 NOW (TODAY):

  3. How do you think what Mark is saying APPLIES to our lives today:

    1. What does this point mean for the non Christian?

    2. What does it mean for us as citizens, as employees, and so forth?

    3. What does it teach us about Christ?

    4. What does it mean for us as individual Christians?

    5. What does it mean for our church as a whole?

  4. In your opinion does the main point or core message of this text counter one or more of these false contemporary worldviews?

Individualism — the false story that “I” am the center of the universe

Consumerism — the false story that I am what I own

Nationalism — the false story that my nation is God’s nation

Moral relativism — the false story that we can’t know what is universally good

Scientific Naturalism — the false story that all that matters is matter

New Age — the false story that we are gods

Postmodern tribalism — the false story that all that matters is what my small group thinks

Salvation by therapy — the false story that I can come to my full human potential through inner exploration

Moralism— the false belief that the Gospel can be reduced to improvements in behavior

Traditionalism — Adherence to tradition, especially in cultural or religious practice. Or a system holding that all knowledge is derived from original divine revelation and is transmitted by tradition.

Any thoughts about this passage? (Mark 4:26-29)

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PASSAGE: Text Comparison – Mark 4:26–29

ESV | ‎Mk 4:26 And he said, “The kingdom of God is as if a man should scatter seed on the ground.  ‎27 He sleeps and rises night and day, and the seed sprouts and grows; he knows not how.  ‎28 The earth produces by itself, first the blade, then the ear, then the full grain in the ear.  ‎29 But when the grain is ripe, at once he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come.”

NLT | ‎Mk 4:26 Jesus also said, “The Kingdom of God is like a farmer who scatters seed on the ground.  ‎27 Night and day, while he’s asleep or awake, the seed sprouts and grows, but he does not understand how it happens.  ‎28 The earth produces the crops on its own. First a leaf blade pushes through, then the heads of wheat are formed, and finally the grain ripens.  ‎29 And as soon as the grain is ready, the farmer comes and harvests it with a sickle, for the harvest time has come.”

The Message | ‎Mk 4:26 Then Jesus said, “God’s kingdom is like seed thrown on a field by a man  ‎27 who then goes to bed and forgets about it. The seed sprouts and grows—he has no idea how it happens.  ‎28 The earth does it all without his help: first a green stem of grass, then a bud, then the ripened grain.  ‎29 When the grain is fully formed, he reaps—harvest time!

Q:What do you think Mark is saying in 4:21-25 (THEN):

Q: What do you think Mark is saying 4:21-25 NOW (TODAY):

Q: How do you think what Mark is saying APPLIES to our lives today:

• What does this point mean for the non Christian?
• What does it mean for us as citizens, as employees, and so forth?
• What does it teach us about Christ?
• What does it mean for us as individual Christians?
• What does it mean for our church as a whole?

Q: In your opinion does the main point or core message of this text counter one or more of these false contemporary worldviews.

Individualism — the false story that “I” am the center of the universe
Consumerism — the false story that I am what I own
Nationalism — the false story that my nation is God’s nation
Moral relativismthe false story that we can’t know what is universally good
Scientific Naturalismthe false story that all that matters is matter
New Agethe false story that we are gods
Postmodern tribalism — the false story that all that matters is what my small group thinks
Salvation by therapy — the false story that I can come to my full human potential through inner exploration
Moralism— the false belief that the Gospel can be reduced to improvements in behavior
Traditionalism — Adherence to tradition, especially in cultural or religious practice. Or a system holding that all knowledge is derived from original divine revelation and is transmitted by tradition.

Any thoughts about this passage?

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PASSAGE:
Mark 4:21–25 (The Message)
21 Jesus went on: “Does anyone bring a lamp home and put it under a washtub or beneath the bed? Don’t you put it up on a table or on the mantel? 22 We’re not keeping secrets, we’re telling them; we’re not hiding things, we’re bringing them out into the open. 23 “Are you listening to this? Really listening? 24 “Listen carefully to what I am saying—and be wary of the shrewd advice that tells you how to get ahead in the world on your own. Giving, not getting, is the way. 25 Generosity begets generosity. Stinginess impoverishes.”

Q:What do you think Mark is saying in 4:21-25 THEN:
Q: What do you think Mark is saying 4:21-25 NOW (TODAY):
Q: How do you think what Mark is saying APPLIES to our lives today:

• What does this point mean for the non Christian?
• What does it mean for us as citizens, as employees, and so forth?
• What does it teach us about Christ?
• What does it mean for us as individual Christians?
• What does it mean for our church as a whole?

Q: In your opinion does the main point or core message of this text counter one or more of these false contemporary worldviews.

• Individualism — the false story that “I” am the center of the universe
• Consumerism — the false story that I am what I own
• Nationalism — the false story that my nation is God’s nation
• Moral relativism — the false story that we can’t know what is universally good
• Scientific Naturalism — the false story that all that matters is matter
• New Age — the false story that we are gods
• Postmodern tribalism — the false story that all that matters is what my small group thinks
• Salvation by therapy — the false story that I can come to my full human potential through inner exploration
• Moralism— the false belief that the Gospel can be reduced to improvements in behavior
• Traditionalism — Adherence to tradition, especially in cultural or religious practice. Or a system holding that all knowledge is derived from original divine revelation and is transmitted by tradition.

Here are the sermon notes and weekly reading from last Sunday… Mark 4:1–20 (ESV)

Mark 4:1–20 (ESV)

1 Again he began to teach beside the sea. And a very large crowd gathered about him, so that he got into a boat and sat in it on the sea, and the whole crowd was beside the sea on the land. 2 And he was teaching them many things in parables, and in his teaching he said to them: 3 “Listen! Behold, a sower went out to sow. 4 And as he sowed, some seed fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured it. 5 Other seed fell on rocky ground, where it did not have much soil, and immediately it sprang up, since it had no depth of soil. 6 And when the sun rose, it was scorched, and since it had no root, it withered away. 7 Other seed fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked it, and it yielded no grain. 8 And other seeds fell into good soil and produced grain, growing up and increasing and yielding thirtyfold and sixtyfold and a hundredfold.” 9 And he said, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.” 10 And when he was alone, those around him with the twelve asked him about the parables. 11 And he said to them, “To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, 12 so that “they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn and be forgiven.” 13 And he said to them, “Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables? 14 The sower sows the word. 15 And these are the ones along the path, where the word is sown: when they hear, Satan immediately comes and takes away the word that is sown in them. 16 And these are the ones sown on rocky ground: the ones who, when they hear the word, immediately receive it with joy. 17 And they have no root in themselves, but endure for a while; then, when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately they fall away. 18 And others are the ones sown among thorns. They are those who hear the word, 19 but the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches and the desires for other things enter in and choke the word, and it proves unfruitful. 20 But those that were sown on the good soil are the ones who hear the word and accept it and bear fruit, thirtyfold and sixtyfold and a hundredfold.”

  • What I think Mark is saying in 4:1-20 then:

a.      Jesus has come to sow seeds for the renewal of Israel.
b.      He sows everywhere (here is not particular)
c.      The harvest will be great and will not fail.
d.      The ones listening to Jesus will bear fruit if they do what he says
i.      In Helenistic/Greek thought: (Sower=Teacher, Sowing = Teaching, Soils = Students.
ii.      Jewish mind: God and Satan produce grief, hardship and ethical conflicts because of a cosmic battle. (God is the rescuer not the mind and education alone.
iii.      The four soils are at the moment of the parable are the soils found in Israel at the time of Christ. Notice how the crowds, sick, disciples, religious leaders and political leaders respond to the word.

e.      The disciples are learning first what everyone else does not yet know.

  • What I think Mark is saying 4:1-20 now:

    Today we are sowers who should be bearing the seed of the person and work of Christ. Our focus should be on the task of sowing not soil testing and faithfulness not success.

  • How I think what Mark is saying applies to our lives today:

    What does this point mean for the non Christian today? Christ is renewal for those who believe today. John 3:16-17 If you hear the Word turn and follow Him by faith.
    What does it mean for us as citizens, as employees, and so forth today? Christ is renewal for the broken ways our world works. Don’t judge the soil of your co workers, friends and community. Bear the depth of the person and work of Christ in your heart (Ethics) toward all without restraint. Your friends and co workers should feel as if they have just been with Jesus (Our thoughts, words actions, desires toward them etc)
    What does it teach us about Christ today? Christ is renewal for His people. Christ’s kingdom cannot be stopped. The seeds of renewal have grown up and out of Israel and both fruit and sowers (of the message)can be found all over the Globe. Christ is our message His life, death and resurrection is like a seed planted left as dead and bursting forth into glorious life.
    What does it mean for us as individual Christians today? Christ is renewal for your life in Him. Find your worth and value in your call to sow not in the AMOUNT of harvest but THE harvest. God gives the increase. Continually look out for the that can stop you from sowing faithfully.
    • What does it mean for our church as a whole today? Christ is our renewal from traditions, moralism and fruitlessness. We are here to become disciples so that we might reach our community for Christ (With HIS message and work)! We consume from God and other believers so that we might become better dispensers.

 

Readings for you to interact with this week…

  • Monday reading:  Q: Read Mark 4:1-20 again and think about how all the people listening to and following Jesus are responding so far in The Gospel according to Mark (The people: crowds, sick, possessed, religious leaders, political leaders, disciples,  Jesus’ family) Are you seeing where the good soil is in the story? What kind of people are they (the ones with good soil). In the end of Mark do you think some of these “good soil” and poor soil people will surprise you with their reactions to Christ?
  • Tuesday reading: Q: How do you see Isa. 6:9–10 being fulfilled in this passage? How has Israel’s “turning away” from their Messiah (or Christ) brought about the hope of healing for the whole world today? (John 3:16)
  • Wednesday reading: Q:After reading these passages (Isaiah. 6:10; 43:8; 44:18) How do you see some of the false stories (below) contributing to Israel’s spiritual inability to hear and understand Jesus? Do you see any of Israel’s life story in your life story?
    • the false story that “I am the center of the universe”
    • the false story that  “All that matters is what my small group thinks”
    • the false story that “my nation is God’s nation”
  • Thursday reading : Q: In Mark 4:10-11 The secret of the kingdom is being given to the disciples of Christ. Is this (secret giving and teaching)happening all at once or progressively throughout their journey with Christ? Do you see any similarities in your journey with God when compared to the disciples? What do you think Micah 6:8 has to do with our journey with God and understanding “the secrets of the kingdom”?
  • Friday reading: Q: In the Lord’s Prayer (Matthew 6:9-13) we say  “Your kingdom come,  your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven”. What do you think the relationship between this prayer and the verse in Mark 4:20 is?
  • Saturday reading : Kingdom of God, Kingdom of heaven By N.T. Wright:
    “Best understood as the kingship, or sovereign and saving rule, of Israel’s God yhwh, as celebrated in several Psalms (e.g. 99:1) and prophecies (e.g. Daniel 6:26f.). Because yhwh was the creator God, when he finally became king in the way he intended this would involve setting the world to rights, and particularly rescuing Israel from its enemies. ‘Kingdom of God’ and various equivalents (e.g. ‘No king but God!’) became revolutionary slogans around the time of Jesus. Jesus’ own announcement of God’s kingdom redefined these expectations around his own very different plan and vocation. His invitation to people to ‘enter’ the kingdom was a way of summoning them to allegiance to himself and his programme, seen as the start of God’s long-awaited saving reign. For Jesus, the kingdom was coming not in a single move, but in stages, of which his own public career was one, his death and resurrection another, and a still future consummation another. Note that ‘kingdom of heaven’ is Matthew’s preferred form for the same phrase, following a regular Jewish practice of saying ‘heaven’ rather than ‘God’. It does not refer to a place (‘heaven’), but to the fact of God’s becoming king in and through Jesus and his achievement. Paul speaks of Jesus, as Messiah, already in possession of his kingdom, waiting to hand it over finally to the Father (1 Corinthians 15:23–8; cf. Ephesians 5:5).”

 

What is the main point or core message of this passage in your opinion?

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Q: What is the main point or core message of this passage in your opinion?

PASSAGE:
Mark 4:1–20 (The Message)
1 He went back to teaching by the sea. A crowd built up to such a great size that he had to get into an offshore boat, using the boat as a pulpit as the people pushed to the water’s edge. 2 He taught by using stories, many stories. 3 “Listen. What do you make of this? A farmer planted seed. 4 As he scattered the seed, some of it fell on the road and birds ate it. 5 Some fell in the gravel; it sprouted quickly but didn’t put down roots, 6 so when the sun came up it withered just as quickly. 7 Some fell in the weeds; as it came up, it was strangled among the weeds and nothing came of it. 8 Some fell on good earth and came up with a flourish, producing a harvest exceeding his wildest dreams. 9 “Are you listening to this? Really listening?” 10 When they were off by themselves, those who were close to him, along with the Twelve, asked about the stories. 11 He told them, “You’ve been given insight into God’s kingdom—you know how it works. But to those who can’t see it yet, everything comes in stories, creating readiness, nudging them toward receptive insight. 12 These are people— Whose eyes are open but don’t see a thing, Whose ears are open but don’t understand a word, Who avoid making an about-face and getting forgiven.” 13 He continued, “Do you see how this story works? All my stories work this way. 14 “The farmer plants the Word. 15 Some people are like the seed that falls on the hardened soil of the road. No sooner do they hear the Word than Satan snatches away what has been planted in them. 16 “And some are like the seed that lands in the gravel. When they first hear the Word, they respond with great enthusiasm. 17 But there is such shallow soil of character that when the emotions wear off and some difficulty arrives, there is nothing to show for it. 18 “The seed cast in the weeds represents the ones who hear the kingdom news 19 but are overwhelmed with worries about all the things they have to do and all the things they want to get. The stress strangles what they heard, and nothing comes of it. 20 “But the seed planted in the good earth represents those who hear the Word, embrace it, and produce a harvest beyond their wildest dreams.”

Q: In your opinion how does the main point or core message of this passage interact with one or more of the questions below?

• How does it relate to us in regards to redemptive history?
• What does this point mean for the non Christian?
• What does it mean for us as citizens, as employees, and so forth?
• What does it teach us about Christ?
• What does it mean for us as individual Christians?
• What does it mean for our church as a whole?

Q: In your opinion does the main point or core message of this text counter one or more of these false contemporary worldviews.

• Individualism — the false story that “I” am the center of the universe
• Consumerism — the false story that I am what I own
• Nationalism — the false story that my nation is God’s nation
• Moral relativism — the false story that we can’t know what is universally good
• Scientific Naturalism — the false story that all that matters is matter
• New Age — the false story that we are gods
• Postmodern tribalism — the false story that all that matters is what my small group thinks
• Salvation by therapy — the false story that I can come to my full human potential through inner exploration
• Moralism— the false belief that the Gospel can be reduced to improvements in behavior
• Traditionalism — Adherence to tradition, especially in cultural or religious practice. Or a system holding that all knowledge is derived from original divine revelation and is transmitted by tradition.

What is the main point or core message of this passage in your opinion?

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Q: What is the main point or core message of this passage in your opinion?

PASSAGE:
Mark 3:31–35 (NLT)
31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see him. They stood outside and sent word for him to come out and talk with them. 32 There was a crowd sitting around Jesus, and someone said, “Your mother and your brothers are outside asking for you.” 33 Jesus replied, “Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?” 34 Then he looked at those around him and said, “Look, these are my mother and brothers. 35 Anyone who does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”

Q: In your opinion how does the main point or core message of this passage interact with one or more of the questions below?

• How does it relate to us in regards to redemptive history?
• What does this point mean for the non Christian?
• What does it mean for us as citizens, as employees, and so forth?
• What does it teach us about Christ?
• What does it mean for us as individual Christians?
• What does it mean for our church as a whole?

How does the main point or core message of this text counter one or more of these false contemporary worldviews.

• Individualism — the false story that “I” am the center of the universe
• Consumerism — the false story that I am what I own
• Nationalism — the false story that my nation is God’s nation
• Moral relativism — the false story that we can’t know what is universally good
• Scientific Naturalism — the false story that all that matters is matter
• New Age — the false story that we are gods
• Postmodern tribalism — the false story that all that matters is what my small group thinks
• Salvation by therapy — the false story that I can come to my full human potential through inner exploration
• Moralism— the false belief that the Gospel can be reduced to improvements in behavior
• Traditionalism — Adherence to tradition, especially in cultural or religious practice. Or a system holding that all knowledge is derived from original divine revelation and is transmitted by tradition.